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Star Trek X: The Meanest Farewell

Romulans clone Picard for some reason and the clone wants to kill humanity for some reason.

Geoff: TNG was my cast. Picard is my captain. Watching this movie makes me angry. Angry that we TNG fans didn’t get better movies, and angry that this festering turd is the farewell forced upon us. Nemesis is a dark, mean, angry movie with no heart, no joy, and nothing that makes Star Trek good. Roddenberry would have hated this movie. As much as my opinion of Insurrection improved in this Rewatching Marathon, Nemesis has fallen. What a hateful piece of targ shite.

Most of the bad Star Trek movies at least have pieces that work. TMP has some 45 minutes of interesting plot squeezed into two-and-a-quarter hours. Even 5 has a lot of endearing character interactions despite its other significant failings.

Nemesis has none of that. The possible interplay between Picard and not-Picard is so rapidly squandered by the REVENGE OF COURSE FOR REASONS plotline that the rest of it falls to the wayside. Even the nature-vs-nurture aspect is so barely explored it feels like an afterthought.

And look, I get that it’s not fair to judge a 14-year-old movie by the standards of the day, but rape scenes in movies are stupid and pointless rape scenes like the one in this movie are offensive.

Star Trek is supposed to be about hope for the future and talented, diverse people overcoming great obstacles. This movie is about hate and anger. That is not Star Trek. That is the opposite of Star Trek. There are other bad Star Trek movies, but this one in premise, script, tone, and execution, is the most wrong.

I am so glad none of the people involved in this movie (cast excluded) is involved in the Star Trek franchise anymore. They have proven with this (and fraking Enterprise) that they don’t deserve to ever again touch this hallowed franchise.

Perhaps worst of all, THIS was our goodbye to our old friends. Shameful.

At least we have “All Good Things…". Unquestionably the best “movie” from the TNG cast.

Rank: 12th

Carolina: This was the first even numbered Star Trek movie that frustrates me. It tries to be philosophical with the subject of cloning and identity crisis, but the arguments presented are pretty weak. The audience could immediately reject these ideas because there’s no debate in the way they present them.

There's no wit in the movie, no one is thinking outside the box to overcome the villains, and you don't care about them. The movie tries to do a Wrath of Khan ending with Data, but it fails because he didn't need to die. It's not like there was no possible another way, but the script needed this to happen, so it did.

But the most unforgivable scene is Diana Troy's rape scene. It does nothing for the movie. It's there because I guess she needed a conflict? To make the movie “edgy”? It's a lazy and an awful plot device for her to do something. Couldn't the writers come up with anything better? I could go on pages and pages why this is so unforgivable, but then I wouldn’t be talking about Star Trek.

I was shocked when I found out this was the last adventure for this crew, that the show had ended a few years back and this was the last time fans would ever get to see them. What a big insult to the fans.

Trekkies, I understand your pain.

PQ/SQ: Who could tell? Most of the movie is so murky and drab. A bit grainy, but reasonable detail for the most part. Better than the 80’s movies, not as good as the ones that follow.

Rank: 12th

hk2000's picture

You cannot lump the so-called reboot with the rest of 'em, so they are last and not necessarily 11th, 12th and 13th, but last to anything based on the original timeline upon which all of the series that followed are based.The so called parallel universe or whatever reasoning they use to change the timeline completely destroyed any chance of those movies to be legitimately considered "Star Trek' movies. So there are 10 movies, really That I would order as follows

10- The Motion Picture- I still don't get it.
9- Final frontier- The idea is ridiculous
8- Generations- A great idea that was wasted- on so many levels.
7- Nemesis- Another great poorly done.
6- The Undiscovered Country- Well made and entertaining, but I sort of agreed with the "Villains"!
5- First Contact- Using the Zefram Cochrane character from "Metamorphosis" just worked.
4- The Search for Spock- The hocus-pocus ending had to happen, I guess!
3- Insurrection- Very entertaining, and dare I say, deep.
2- The Journey Home- Lighthearted entertainment.
1- Wrath of Khan- Probably the best sequel to a TV episode ever.

I won't dignify any of the new movies by ranking them here.

mikem's picture

Only one question. Why on earth would you consciously submit yourself to such a fiasco? If you were able to sit through the worst acting performances ever, Hayden Christionsen being the worst, you are indeed a better than I 'Gunga Din.'

sleepyninja's picture

'Star Trek: Beyond' at the #2 & #4 position? Really? I found it too action-centric, and the humor, dialog, and aliens uninspired, and would place it along with the Shatner-directed 'Final Frontier' travesty near the bottom of the barrel. With that said, I'm certainly not optimisic for the next installment with Justin Lin at the helm again.

Geoffrey Morrison's picture
I think I was still suffering from a Nemesis hangover. The lighter tone was so welcome.
David Vaughn's picture
Geoff, I liked it as well. It's a fun movie and I loved all of the humor.
thehun's picture

I guess I'm the only one who likes S.T. 1 despite it's obvious flaws. The long musical scenes and V'ger's exploration is a clear [to me anyway]"wink" at 2001 ASO,in style not thematically, and how Hollywood used to make "epics". Anyway I never found those scenes boring, and in retrospect it fits for the first movie, and to [re]introduce the entire ST world to larger audiences.
As for Beyond, I agree with it's detractors, that is among the worst the franchise has given us so far.

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Boldly went where no moviegoer has gone before. Your detailed setup for the marathon and the collaborative ranking process make this a fun read. I am curious which one took the bottom spot for you both.
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