3D Blu-ray Player Reviews

Kris, meet Mark, Mark, meet Kris. How does music playback on the Oppo compare with the Cambridge Minx and the Sony HAP? At $599, the Oppo, already a good value, would seem a steal if it also eliminates the need for a separate music player, at least in the context of a full AV component system, as the Cambridge and Sony are integrated amps. Are any S&V/Stereophile reviewers working on the Sony HAP-Z1ES?

Hi Mark! I haven't heard the other two players you are talking about unfortunately. I've been using the 103D as a transport feeding my Anthem pre-pro for a few months now and have no complaints. I haven't used it as an analog stage feeding a preamp though. I have a few friends that have and are more than happy with the results. There are some bench measurements of the 103 out on the web that show how fantastic it measures as an analog source. Not quite as good as the 105, but still extremely good. With a USB drive full of music attached to it I've had nothing but fun using it for music playback regardless of the file type.

Just curious Chris; what Blu-ray player are you using now as your reference player in your own rig; the 105 or the 105D?

And, what would you recommend to owners of the originals 103 and 105; should they upgrade to the newer 103D and 105D?

Last, which one is the more "picture accurate", the original (103 - 105) with the Marvell's Kyoto-G2H video processor from Qdeo, or the newer 'D' edition (103D - 105D) with the DVDO's Silicon Image VRS ClearView video processor and with/plus the Darbee Visual Presence Darblet Video Enhancer?

- We know that the originals 103 and 105 weren't totally accurate (with some sharpness softening - fixed); is the Silicon Image VRS Clearview video processor as implemented by Oppo more accurate, or less?
{The Darbee is a video enhancer, so we all know that it isn't accurate; the reason why it has nothing to do with accuracy and not mentioned in my above question.}

Cheers,
Bob

P.S. Would be nice to have an Edit function in our comments; like for thirty minutes or so. ...Professional editing is important in the times we live in.

I just realized that I misspelled your name! ...Chris instead of Kris.

Hiya Kris,

Thank you for your great review... I have one question relating to colour space and deep colour settings in the Oppo BDP-103D?

I use a Pioneer KURO set and that seemed to like an RGB Video Level setting on my old Oppo BDP-95 and and BDP-93, BUT due to the new Oppo BDP-103D having the Darbee processing done in the 4:2:2 color space, would I be better off swapping to 4:2:2 or another setting. On the Spears & Munsil test discs in the past the Pioneer KURO definitely seemed to prefer the RGB Video Level setting, but now with the Darbee does that change things so I need to rethink my settings?

The paragraph that I read which raised this questions is the below one: "One slight difference from the Darblet is that the Darbee processing in the Oppo is done in the 4:2:2 color space. You can still select whatever color-space output you want from the Oppo (RGB/4:2:2/4:4:4), but regardless of your decision, the player will have done a conversion to 4:2:2 if you have Darbee on. This worked out well for me since I have the player set to 4:2:2 for my HDMI output. Oppo uses their custom Mediatek chip for color conversions, and it’s bit accurate—which means they will all be correctly rendered no matter which output you use."

Lastly, would you recommend I have Deep Colour OFF or 36 bits etc. I cannot see any difference between Deep Colour settings on my Pioneer KURO and have not suffered any HDMI bandwidth or handshaking issues if set to 36 bits (which is what I currently have the Oppo BDP-103D set to).

Thank you again for your review and hopefully your insightful answers. Kind regards and all the best, Diane Lane Fan.

I have a OPPO 105 and absolutely love it. But the Roku stick that came with it is a piece of junk.

Kris....I had picked up a 103 when it first came out back in 2012. Besides the BluRay functionality, I was going to use it to perform the duties of a Dune HD to tap into my digital library located on a NAS. I ended up returning it due to the fact that it would never show Artists and/or Albums in alphabetic order as well as the song listing was always out of order too.

Can you tell me if this has been corrected in the "D" version or firmware updates? I recall calling OPPO Technical Support and they seemed in the dark.

Thank you again for your review....

I purchased the Darblet after your review of it, two years ago?? In any event I still love it though it does have some minor querks re: handshaking delay, randomly resetting to different modes, but it still blows me away with how it magically increasing resolution and depth of field w/o any negative effects to the source material. My reference disk is Prometheus. My next purchase will be the Darbee Oppo.

There are some striking lines in the background with Darbee engaged; did Oppo fixed that well known issue yet.

Sorry for the delay on responding but thanks for all the feedback! LOTRs: I have both a Oppo 105 and a 103D in my reference system at the moment. I am aware of the so called "softening" that the QDEO supposedly brings to the table but have yet to find anywhere where this is obvious. I didn't see any difference in picture quality between the 105 and the 103D in that sense, but obviously the Darbee adds something different. I haven't seen any "striking" issues, I assume you mean streaking? Diane Lane Fan: EVERY Blu-ray player does a color conversion since all Blu-ray and DVD discs are stored as 4:2:0. This is always sampled up to at least 4:2:2. In your case I wouldn't worry about color conversion since the Oppo is bit perfect in this regard. Send whatever looks best for your Kuro. Deep color doesn't really do anything in my setup and since there is no real content I don't know how much true benefit there is. I would simply try it both ways and see if you notice any difference worth keeping it on. SoCalYogi: I haven't used the Oppo with a NAS drive (don't have one in my system) so I can't comment on this. I use a 4TB hard drive plugged in directly to the rear USB and I haven't had any issues with folders or playlists. Sorry I can't be more help.

Striking streaks (annoying lines), yes Kris.

Totally 100% removed! ...Veritas Commando.

Happy Winter Olympics,
Bob

I may be mistaken, but, I can't recall seeing anything about this in the specs for either the 103D or 105D, with respect to the HDMI "in" capability of the Oppo and the ability to connect an external source, in addition to the other video processing in the Oppo, can that source also be processed by the Darbee? In my case and perhaps others I would be somewhat reluctant to purchase either player because I already own a BDP105 with the external Darblet and to me the rather significant advantage of the external Darblet is that connected to a Pre-Pro/AVR, you can process ALL of your sources and not just what is coming out of the player.

As an owner of a BDP-103D who has had his unit replaced after a firmware update threw off the stereo balance on my player (for which Oppo's initial suggestion was to turn the level on the right output up... no!), I received a replacement and found many problems with both units. If you are going to use it as a media hub/pre-amp, which it it designed to do, don't be surprised to find that it is the most epically buggy piece of equipment you've ever owned. I current have a Mac Mini server and a cable box hooked up to it's HDMI inputs.

• The BDP-103D does not have a very beefy output section so if you are thinking about using it to power low to mid-gain amplifiers (in my case, Paradigm Reference active mains and subs), think again. While at full output, the unit sounds great, it is a bit noisy for this use and audible hiss can be easily heard from it.

• The digital volume control used in the unit (probably part of the DAC) is of a high quality, but there seems to be something akin to a noise gate that makes a "thunk" turning on and off between songs when playing iTunes or go to commercials or when you pause a disc.

• During the course of a days use, it's pretty rare that I don't have to reboot the unit because it either misbehaves or locks up. While I can't point to the causes, the problems are many. The volume control on the remote no longer causes the unit to adjust the volume (reboot). The A/V sync from the cable box wanders out of lock by a tenth of a second or so (reboot). It stops playing MKV files from my NAS drive (reboot). The Darbee button on the remote stops bringing up the Darbee menu (several reboots). The entire remote ceases to have any functionality so I have to reboot it from the front power button. And, by no means, let your HDMI attached computer go to sleep while it is the selected source for the 103 or it locks up (reboot).

I have had two BDP-103D's and, with the exception of the first player's glitch where the right channel output being off by 3db, they were both equally buggy when used to do anything more than play discs.

Yes, it has a great picture and the sound is pretty fantastic, but the BDP-103D is far from a fully realized product.

jeff henning

If I am using epson 5020ube for Oppo 103d. Does the high resolution benifit thru for the wireless hdmi？

Hi Jeff, Sorry you're having so many issues! I guess there is always someone that will. I wouldn't call me missing what you're talking about a "glaring" considering most customers are probably not driving active speakers with their Oppo. I imagine that market is pretty small. Plus I don't recall Oppo marketing this player as an A/V preamp. Can it drive an amplifier? Yes! But nowhere in the marketing of this player does Oppo advocate you ditching a preamp, receiver or any other processor for the Oppo. Every amp is different in how it reacts to an input voltage, the key is finding the right preamp for your needs. I haven't had any of the lockup problems you're reporting with any of the new Oppo players I have on hand. In my home I have two 103Ds and a 105 running and have never had issues with the remote. The only "lock ups" I've had are from using Vudu on occasion (which I think has more to do with my network than anything) and I've had my attached hard drive lock up a few times. From the comments you've mentioned here it sounds like HDMI issues more than anything, especially when it comes to cable boxes, which are notorious for HDMI issues. I would definitely communicate any and all issues to Oppo as they are very proactive in trying to recreate and troubleshoot reoccuring issues customers are having. Sorry it hasn't worked out well for you!

Hi Harvey, Wireless HDMI is simply a substitute for the cabling and has nothing to do with the features of the Oppo. As long as it can pass the signal to your projector, it should have any and all benefits that the Oppo output.

Can you please post the specifications from the options menu for your review?

I second the request for the review specs. Please.

If you manage to "lock-up" the 103D, I've done it twice, you will get loud digital noise in your center channel speaker and it may damage it depending on your loudness setting, your amplifier power and your tweeter power handling (I got lucky).
To avoid this - on Oppo power on- WAIT for the TV display to settle before issuing any commands (such as hitting the source select on the Oppo).
It would be nice if Oppo could have added a way to ignore commands before the hardware is ready for them.
Powering off will clear this condition.

Opppo replied to my request for help and suggested that I do 2 things to possibly fix the occasional lock up problem:1. Operate in power saving mode. 2.Disconnect the network dongle (they thing network traffic might be causing lockups) - even though I was not using the network does not mean that the player is totally ignoring it.

Anyway - I did that and tried to loco my set up and could not. We will see how it does over the next few weeks.
Howie Eng in Virginia.