Vizio Roundup

Marcus Apitz, VP of Engineering at Vizio, takes us on a grand tour of the company's massive exhibit and talks about the newest version of Vizio Internet Apps, ultra-widescreen flat-panels, and passive-polarized 3D TVs.

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Yes Scott, in a 1:85 movie, small black bars would be seen. It is the ratio of 1:78 to 1 that should have no black bars. The difference between native and natural might also account for those missing bars on a 1:85 movie. I still am kicking myself in the "arse" for not saving that video magazine article years back on the ratios. I also prefer a 2:35 to 1 movie with its black bars on my 16X9 set to see the film in its proper aspect ratio, If the film goes above 2:35 to 1 let's say 2:40 to 1, then those black bars seem to be overbearing. Thanks for your input on a 4X3 image on that wider screen set. It thought it would look "puny" and probably very unbearable to watch.

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It is not often that readers of a person who writes columns for a magazine of any type gets to hear and see what a person sounds like rather than just a photo of a person.

I think you are a great interviewer Scott and handled this interview with aplomb with your questions and comments as organized as best that one person could do. Bravo is the word here.

I think that everybody got carried away over the ratio thingy of Vizio's 21X9 television. The "dreaded" black bars that one sees on a 16X9 television is when a movie is shown as an orignal aspect ratio of 2:35 to 1 and not 1:85 to 1 as mentioned. 1:85 to 1 seems to work very well on a 16X9 tv but I am not sure how it is going to be handled on a 21X9 tv which I would believe result in a rather large overscan. If not by overscan it might have black bars on each side. I do not know how 4X3 would be handled on this type of set. I know Phillips has been making a 21X9 set in Europe but I do not recall how that set handles 1:85 to 1 and 4X3 discs

Video magazine many years ago had an article on why the 16X9 ratio was chosen. Stupid me did not save the article for they had the artwork showing why all the varied ratios could fit into this ratio but of course in some instances would have black bars on the sides or on the top and bottom.

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Check out Scott's podcasts called HTGeeks here on the website and you can see and hear more of Scott's great stuff! Every single podcast is always gold!

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Thanks to both of you for your kind words! I'm having fun with the video interviews, and there are lots more to come as the videographer edits the footage we've shot so far and will continue to shoot today.

Actually, kelsci, black letterbox bars do appear on a 16:9 (1.78:1) set when viewing a 1.85:1 movie, though they aren't as large as with a 2.35:1 movie. If you watch a 1.85:1 movie on a 21:9 (2.33:1) set, it will actually have black bars on the sides; I think I might have gotten this a bit wrong in the interview. If you don't see any black bars when watching a 1.85:1 movie on a 16:9 set, the image is being zoomed, and you're not seeing the entire image.

With a 2.35:1 movie on a 21:9 set, the black bars will be essentially gone, though because of the slight discrepancy between 2.33 and 2.35, you will see either tiny black bars on the top and bottom or a tiny bit of the image will be cropped from the right and left sides. as for 4:3 material, it will look positively puny on a 21:9 set with huge black bars on the sides.

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