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Why not eliminate the problems with a center speaker and use wide dispersement full range front stereo speakers? In fact with identical full range stereo surround speakers you would not even require a subwoofer and would solve the problems inherent in using a separate subwoofer. 4.0 is the way to listen to movies and surround music.

4.0 are you mad? 10.4 is more like it, well, if the room is big enough. And with my 106" screen that would be nice to have. I do miss the old days sometimes with the old 3-ways with a 12"/15" woofer but I will take some Klipsch with dual tens all the way around my living room with four 12" subs in each corner. Of course, this is a guy who helped install the largest KV2 Audio system in America so I have that taste in my mouth for more than the average HT speaker system can give.

For normal living-room size setups, I think a center channel is not only unnecessary but a bad idea for all the reasons mentioned previously. Two excellent full-range speakers up front provide a wide, seamless soundstage without gaps. I like a subwoofer for movies, so my setup is 4.1.

I was kidding a little bit in my first comment, but I would rather have Lath's 4.0 setup over Dave's 4.1 because Lath was going to have the big bad boy speakers with woofers all around instead of one sub. The one sub design bugs me. Why can't we have surround bass? Think of war scenes or thunderstorms. I want to feel bass from explosions and thunder coming from all different directions, not just one. With Lath's design you can get that. Heck, you can do a 7.0 surround with towers that have built in subs and get the same effect that I desire. Would that be 7.7 though, hmm. Anyway, back to the center channel. Ever since they started making equal power to each channel for surround I have always thought all the speakers should be the same size, and of course, large and in charge.

Shouldn't the center speaker be optimised for normal human voice range?

Mark: Could you please post photographs of your setup?

I prefer not to let people see my squalor -- but I'll be describing the salient points of it in a future diablog which may appear here in a few weeks.

You have given significant hints in your reviews of your preference to have all front speakers the same rather than a different center channel speaker. Since being retired meant less discretionary spending, I bought the Hsu system you reviewed. I did not get a center channel speaker but instead used five of the bookshelves with sub woofer. It is awesome but most importantly the fronts all blend together perfectly for a huge sound stage. I might have used a center if your prior reviews had not pushed the idea of all the front speakers being the same. So that was good advice and I thank you also for your excellent reviews.

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