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Just an additional note regarding the Crossover question for the Onkyo TX-SR605: The Onkyo receiver automatically designates any speaker whose -3dB point is measured at 80Hz or below as "Full Range." Silly, I know. So re-running auto-cal with "80Hz" as your setting (for example) will automatically change those settings back to "Full Range" again. So make sure you manually change the crossover point to something in the area of 70Hz to 90Hz *after* you run Auto-Cal. The Onkyo's crossover settings are either "Full Range" or a number of designated frequencies. There is no "Small" setting.

Thanks for the info, Ender! I didn't know that about the Onkyo AVRs. This is what I love about the Ask HT blog—the combined knowledge of our readers far exceeds any one person's.

So if i need to deignate the frequencies for each speaker then why do I need to designate them between 70hz and 90 hz if my towers are spec'd at 45hz to 50khz? Isn't 80hz within that range? Maybe I am confused. The higher the number the louder the sound is right?

No worries Scott! I enjoy all your posts so glad my experience with Onkyo/Integra gear can help out a little!Jerry, Scott no doubt has loads more experience than I at crossovers and what's proper, but I'll give your questions a shot: if your speakers' -3dB points are at 45Hz, then it's a good rule-of-thumb to have your crossover points be about a half-octave above that, or 67.5Hz. Since the Onkyo doesn't offer 67.5Hz as a selection in the menu, you're stuck choosing 60Hz, 80Hz, or 100Hz as the closest settings to the half-octave rule of thumb. I wouldn't go *down* to 60, but instead would go *up* to 80. But the frequency response doesn't have anything to do with volume. It's representative of what frequencies can be played through your speakers, from low low bass (pipe organs or explosions), to high frequencies (cymbals on a drum set.) Volume is independent of that. -Rick

What Rick said...

Thanks Steve,I have had the same question about persuing a career as an installer, so this was quite helpful :)

You're welcome Mark ;-)

Is there any way 2 trick my toshiba lx177 video processor 2 think it is receiving a 1080p signal from a1080i 720p source? I am using Onkyo 606 as a hdmi switching system.

There's no way to "trick" the TV into thinking it's receiving a 1080p signal from a 1080i/720p source. And the Onkyo will not upconvert SD signals to 1080p, only 1080i. Why do you want to "trick" the TV into thinking it's getting 1080p?

Hi Scott and others, my front, center and surround's frequency responses are 38, 48, and 45Hz, does this mean I should still make all of them small, during calibration? I ran Pioneer's MCACC, it listed all of them as large. But based on what you said, would I be better off on changing all of them to small? I have changed them all to small as of yesterday, but still wanted to see what you and others say about crossover settings. thanks.

My take on it is that yes, you want to set them to Small. While 38Hz is pretty low, that's the -3dB point of your speaker's frequency response. So it's already down in volume by 3dB once it reaches that frequency. Additionally, there is still a fair amount of information in many movie soundtracks that go below 38Hz, so sending that to the sub for reproduction is advisable. And finally, it takes the load off your amp for those speakers and shifts it to the powered sub which is designed for that task, allowing your speakers' amp(s) some headroom for other things if necessary. JM2C, Rick

What Rick said...again!

thanks guys. it's been crossed over as small speakers, as soon as I saw Scott's explanation. I watched a little bit of Casino Royale on blu ray, and it could be a mental thing, but the bass seemed slightly tighter. again, I do not have a frame of reference since I have not played Royale pre 80Hz cutoff, but that is what I have noticed thus far. Thanks.

I hate for you to have to be repetitive, but I find some of this difficult to graspSo using the rule of thumb you mention above for the Crossover. I have some Canton GLE 409 and they are rated (from their website) at 20hz - 30khz. I should set the Crossover 1/2 an octave higher, so 30. Therefore a crossover of 40 should be set on the Onkyo receiver(I have the 606)?Also after running the Audessesy auto-cal, it set all my speakers in the negative db. (I think it's under speaker calibration). The fronts are at -12db. Is this normal?Finally what about the subwoofer, I have it set between the 0db and +3db. Is this fine?

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